RPG NTR [Makura cover soft] 魔剣士リーネ2/ Leane of Legitimate Crown (RJ194521)


habisain

Tentacle God
Jul 15, 2012
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rotlf, it's the most important feature of the game, paired with the capture system, and the better one implemented so far (always improvable of course).
But it is true the harem mechanic doesn't really add anything to the gameplay, because it is so easy to play around it. If there were some disadvantage to using the male generals then the harem (and indeed the capture system) might become interesting game mechanics, where you have to trade off the advantages/disadvantages of using female/male generals. But there aren't, and so as far as the gameplay goes, it is just an annoyance.

(Quick note: This is just an observation of the gameplay - not anything about the theming of the hentai content)
 

Evil987

Sex Demon
Jul 23, 2010
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But it is true the harem mechanic doesn't really add anything to the gameplay, because it is so easy to play around it. If there were some disadvantage to using the male generals then the harem (and indeed the capture system) might become interesting game mechanics, where you have to trade off the advantages/disadvantages of using female/male generals. But there aren't, and so as far as the gameplay goes, it is just an annoyance.

(Quick note: This is just an observation of the gameplay - not anything about the theming of the hentai content)
yep u are right, if we talking about only the gameplay it's only an annoying stuff to deal with, but it's purpose it's not that.
of course we can always think of a better system that can add gameplay usefulness and mantain the NTR feeling, but the principal purpose of the harem system is the hentai and the ntr stuff, nothing else. the whole game is created around the idea of someone (king or enemies) steal your girls, it's the main and central focus of the game and the harem system perfectly fit this role.

it can be enhanced for better serve the gameplay mechanics? of course, and i will be glad to see a patch for this, but keep in mind that the actual harem system alone it's like 70% of the reason of why i, and every people who seek ntr feels, love to play this game.
 

DawnCry

Demon Girl Master
Sep 18, 2016
233
18
Having your female generals/commanders being called to the harem while at war is both stupid and annoying. I would prefer that the creator focus his effort in expanding the capture mechanic and the opportunities for the enemy to capture a female commander, plus perhaps even some pregnant scenes of the girls while on the enemy side. At present for your girls to be captured it requires the player effort, even more a total inactivity to not save them when captured (they just stay in a frontier city...).

It's not the mechanic itself that is bad but rather the situation makes no sense. Perhaps if the game was more focused on rebellions and internal politics then it may be applied better, like a game in which we have a lustful king that wants to make a great harem of noble ladies and at the start of the game you have to choose between joining the rebels or obeying the king and giving up a sister or something (like Muriel on this game), it could maintain both capture mechanics and harem, but it would be related to each other.

In this game the harem mechanic is pointless, you can like the scenes but that's all there is to it.
 

habisain

Tentacle God
Jul 15, 2012
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yep u are right, if we talking about only the gameplay it's only an annoying stuff to deal with, but it's purpose it's not that.
of course we can always think of a better system that can add gameplay usefulness and mantain the NTR feeling, but the principal purpose of the harem system is the hentai and the ntr stuff, nothing else. the whole game is created around the idea of someone (king or enemies) steal your girls, it's the main and central focus of the game and the harem system perfectly fit this role.

it can be enhanced for better serve the gameplay mechanics? of course, and i will be glad to see a patch for this, but keep in mind that the actual harem system alone it's like 70% of the reason of why i, and every people who seek ntr feels, love to play this game.
I think what you've said kind of supports the argument, actually. Fundamentally there's a conflict between the themes of the game and the gameplay, which makes the game less good as a game. I suspect that people who want "NTR feels" could get them much easier from different games which support the NTR theme with their gameplay. I mean, even optimistically, there's something like four or so hours prologue in this game before the Harem or Capture systems become active. If you want to enjoy this game then you have to like the gameplay on its own, because the gameplay on its own is a huge amount of the game relative to the hentai content.

I'm not necessarily sure how you'd improve the game, mind. Perhaps using actual medieval gender roles would be a good start? In medieval society you normally had the Lords go out to war leading armies, where the Ladies stayed behind and administered the estates. Obviously there'd have to some mangling of the setting to accommodate the female generals being administrators of provinces without being married, but I think that this kind of modification would give ample opportunity for NTR content without being too irritating in the gameplay.
 

Evil987

Sex Demon
Jul 23, 2010
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I think what you've said kind of supports the argument, actually. Fundamentally there's a conflict between the themes of the game and the gameplay, which makes the game less good as a game. I suspect that people who want "NTR feels" could get them much easier from different games which support the NTR theme with their gameplay. I mean, even optimistically, there's something like four or so hours prologue in this game before the Harem or Capture systems become active. If you want to enjoy this game then you have to like the gameplay on its own, because the gameplay on its own is a huge amount of the game relative to the hentai content.
hem no, for me there isn't any conflcit, the gameplay work fine (even with all the defects it have), and the ntr part too.
ntr games dont (usually) work like other type of game where u hunt cg ant that's all. for exemple, the prologue of this game is really good, because let you build up an emotive connection with the heroine (or heroines if u wish), both empatetichally and with gameplay (love and loyalty points), that is crucial for late game when the harem system will start.
what i read for your words is that u dont understand ntr fetish at all, how its works and why some game have specific (or strange) mechanics like this one, and it's ok eh, i don't judge that.
this is an ntr game, u can't read it and force it to be something else, it's not me that need to look elsewhere to find something more appealing.

I'm not necessarily sure how you'd improve the game, mind. Perhaps using actual medieval gender roles would be a good start? In medieval society you normally had the Lords go out to war leading armies, where the Ladies stayed behind and administered the estates. Obviously there'd have to some mangling of the setting to accommodate the female generals being administrators of provinces without being married, but I think that this kind of modification would give ample opportunity for NTR content without being too irritating in the gameplay.
don't overthinking thinbgs bro. it's only a japan ntr H-game, it dosent need to follow true and solid logic or rule. the player need to be connected with the girls and there must be an excuse for other people to steal them from you. then u fap to this. that's all. really.
 

DawnCry

Demon Girl Master
Sep 18, 2016
233
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hem no, for me there isn't any conflcit, the gameplay work fine (even with all the defects it have), and the ntr part too.
ntr games dont (usually) work like other type of game where u hunt cg ant that's all. for exemple, the prologue of this game is really good, because let you build up an emotive connection with the heroine (or heroines if u wish), both empatetichally and with gameplay (love and loyalty points), that is crucial for late game when the harem system will start.
what i read for your words is that u dont understand ntr fetish at all, how its works and why some game have specific (or strange) mechanics like this one, and it's ok eh, i don't judge that.
this is an ntr game, u can't read it and force it to be something else, it's not me that need to look elsewhere to find something more appealing.


don't overthinking thinbgs bro. it's only a japan ntr H-game, it dosent need to follow true and solid logic or rule. the player need to be connected with the girls and there must be an excuse for other people to steal them from you. then u fap to this. that's all. really.
Sorry but you are wrong and I saw at this point what is the difference. You just want to fap at something, not caring about the gameplay, personally I rather than fap I prefer a good gameplay and the sex based on that, it isn't a question about understanding a fetish or not, it is a question of if you care about how it is implemented or not.

I personally find the capture system okay and perfect for the game (in itself, it has many problems that should be solved) and that is because it's a part of the gameplay, the harem system just exists and it's only purpose is to be annoying, if you just want the scenes then rather than the king moving around and being annoying just directly choose to give up the girls for the good of the kingdom and that's it.

What you defend is just your fap material in itself, that you like the king fucking the girls, but what I defend is that if you want to do that then 2 options:

-Do it well and be part of the gameplay
-Do it as optional scenes, directly sending the girls to the harem

It's as simple as that.
 

Cleanfeel

Demon Girl
Sep 28, 2015
150
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Well, maybe it slipped off the creator's mind? Because he probably designed this game to be mainly NTR SRPG. I understand your point though. It really does put the heroines in bad light for betraying their country. But well...I kinda accept it just like other corruption/NTR RPG.

But if the male general can be "converted" as well then this game will be too hard for a noob like me lol. I level up and use some the main male generals to defend my territory when the heroines are still in king harem or with the Hippia rapists. When they are in prison I don't need to hurry freeing them as well. One of the scene has requirement that almost all the heroines are in harem so if I only have weak male generals or they switch side then I will probably get trampled by enemy lol (in Hard mode, at least).

Story-wise, I think maybe the Hippia simply doesn't care about male Highlander. I remember one of the Hippia princes mention that their policy is to "erase" the defeated country by slaying or slaving all the men then impregnate the women. Basically the want to fill the world with only Hippia descendants, and not necessarily pure-blood. Maybe that's the reason they don't bother "converting" the male generals. Damn, if they are smart they will try to convert Ares. He is a genius strategist.
They can be. It's the Loyalty value in the UI.
 

habisain

Tentacle God
Jul 15, 2012
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don't overthinking thinbgs bro. it's only a japan ntr H-game, it dosent need to follow true and solid logic or rule. the player need to be connected with the girls and there must be an excuse for other people to steal them from you. then u fap to this. that's all. really.
@Evil987 If you want to defend the game, fine. I'm not saying that no-one can like the game. But @DarkFire1004 literally just said that trying to end conversations by the tactic of "it's a hentai game and we shouldn't be thinking so hard about it" isn't classed as productive conversation around here. Also you were the one who seemed to be soliciting suggestions on how the game could be improved in your previous post, so I'm not sure why you're objecting to ideas on how the game could be improved (or if you meant something else by "it can be enhanced for better serve the gameplay mechanics? of course, and i will be glad to see a patch for this", please tell me!).

I do get NTR - I don't particularly like it, but I get it. Splitting out the systems so that the women aren't part of the military and instead are more about city administration doesn't impact the NTR at all, and arguably improves the gameplay as well as making some of the stuff in the game make more sense e.g. travelling King demanding time with the local unwilling residents if there isn't a local supply of willing women to his liking, as opposed to spending months fetching soldiers from the front lines, or the hostile armies captuing and holding civilians from territories and doing bad stuff to them.
 

Evil987

Sex Demon
Jul 23, 2010
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Sorry but you are wrong and I saw at this point what is the difference. You just want to fap at something, not caring about the gameplay, personally I rather than fap I prefer a good gameplay and the sex based on that, it isn't a question about understanding a fetish or not, it is a question of if you care about how it is implemented or not.

I personally find the capture system okay and perfect for the game (in itself, it has many problems that should be solved) and that is because it's a part of the gameplay, the harem system just exists and it's only purpose is to be annoying, if you just want the scenes then rather than the king moving around and being annoying just directly choose to give up the girls for the good of the kingdom and that's it.

What you defend is just your fap material in itself, that you like the king fucking the girls, but what I defend is that if you want to do that then 2 options:

-Do it well and be part of the gameplay
-Do it as optional scenes, directly sending the girls to the harem

It's as simple as that.
i defend the fact that the harem system is one of the core of the game. and i have no doubt about that. it works, and the idea of the king to move around and stealing your girls is perfect. if they where more OP than the our male unit that whole be even better.

it can be enhanced and fit the gameplay better? of course. i don't see the problem here.

@Evil987 If you want to defend the game, fine. I'm not saying that no-one can like the game. But @DarkFire1004 literally just said that trying to end conversations by the tactic of "it's a hentai game and we shouldn't be thinking so hard about it" isn't classed as productive conversation around here. Also you were the one who seemed to be soliciting suggestions on how the game could be improved in your previous post, so I'm not sure why you're objecting to ideas on how the game could be improved (or if you meant something else by "it can be enhanced for better serve the gameplay mechanics? of course, and i will be glad to see a patch for this", please tell me!).
but u obviously overthinking the game. some stuff must be taken with the necessary lightness or u can fall in a dark pit of thoughts.
and btw, there is a difference between change the game for enhanced it and do change that upset the core of the game.
if u dont understand well the core fetish u can change/mess up even some important part of it.

I do get NTR - I don't particularly like it, but I get it. Splitting out the systems so that the women aren't part of the military and instead are more about city administration doesn't impact the NTR at all, and arguably improves the gameplay as well as making some of the stuff in the game make more sense e.g. travelling King demanding time with the local unwilling residents if there isn't a local supply of willing women to his liking, as opposed to spending months fetching soldiers from the front lines, or the hostile armies captuing and holding civilians from territories and doing bad stuff to them.
this is a taste problem i guess.
i'm fine on how the dev have create the plot of the game. sure, u can build a different set up where the girls are not military etcc but personally i prefer lose my military unit in combat (also my lover) and see the relative ntr events. gameplay-wise it's satisfating, and i think dev have create the game mechanics to do that, because u lose something u directly use.
 

habisain

Tentacle God
Jul 15, 2012
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but u obviously overthinking the game. some stuff must be taken with the necessary lightness or u can fall in a dark pit of thoughts.
and btw, there is a difference between change the game for enhanced it and do change that upset the core of the game.
if u dont understand well the core fetish u can change/mess up even some important part of it.

this is a taste problem i guess.
i'm fine on how the dev have create the plot of the game. sure, u can build a different set up where the girls are not military etcc but personally i prefer lose my military unit in combat (also my lover) and see the relative ntr events. gameplay-wise it's satisfating, and i think dev have create the game mechanics to do that, because u lose something u directly use.
I'm not overthinking this at all. We're all here to discus the game and if we're to have a conversation then that does require some thought, or else we'd just be bleating meaningless twaddle at each other.

And to be honest your response is interesting in that you only seem to consider military units to be useful. The idea I was advocating is more of a split of roles already in the game. As I recall, in this game all of the units can be tasked to fighting, to city administration (constructing buildings etc) or to espionage. Specialising units to these roles would be pretty logical in my mind, and it doesn't stop any unit from being useful. It just changes the roles slightly, and tries to make the Harem/Capture systems less annoying.
 

Evil987

Sex Demon
Jul 23, 2010
377
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And to be honest your response is interesting in that you only seem to consider military units to be useful. The idea I was advocating is more of a split of roles already in the game. As I recall, in this game all of the units can be tasked to fighting, to city administration (constructing buildings etc) or to espionage. Specialising units to these roles would be pretty logical in my mind, and it doesn't stop any unit from being useful. It just changes the roles slightly, and tries to make the Harem/Capture systems less annoying.
that is a very good idea.
create multiple roles where the player choose what each chara will do (maybe with a look on the stat, some chara will be better to do some work instead of other). soldier unit can be taken on defeat by the enemy, the administrators chara will be taken if the enemy capture that city, thief can be captured if they failed their undercover mission, enemy thief can kidnap our units or be taken if they fall. king can and will summon/catch every girls for his purpose even if they do other works, and force the player to constantly change is strategies in order to maintain a defence force, a good adminitsation of citys and work to save the girls from the king harrassament.

in other words is what the dev have tried to do. and i completely agree that he can could create a better system.
and yes, the result it's not the best but works.
 

maddogrd

Demon Girl Master
Jul 2, 2012
218
18
You have to get them when the girl is in the backroom having sex with king, then you ask the king to release the general to serve in army, then if the girls love for king is high enough and she hasn't gotten knocked up by him yet she will refuse.
Tried that but but their I keep getting a version were you can choose to leave them or convince the to leave with you but in the text says there is a version were they will love the king so much they refuse to leave and can't seem to get it no matter how long I leave them in the harem.
 

raiten28

Jungle Girl
Sep 16, 2012
61
8
They can be. It's the Loyalty value in the UI.
They can? Hmm... I hasn't encountered that event yet. Some of my generals deserted my army because of low loyalty value but so far they haven't been "converted" in prison. Maybe I will try to generate this event by letting them in prison for a long time.

Change subject...
In my opinion, harem system is quite interesting in term of gameplay. It is like I have enemies both behind and in front of me. I have several annoying moments when the douchebag king moved to near the frontline and "steal" some girls who guarding important base. And yeah...that base got taken by Hippia soon after. Maybe it's just me being terrible at strategy game though lol.

I wonder what will happen if I let the base the king resides in get taken by Hippia though. I tried to make it happen several times but nothing happened so far.

This king is quite annoying in fact. In one event he actually mention that the reason he want to be king is to have a LOT of wives (or concubines) just because he can and want to. So he basically say "fuck off" to governing kingdom and just make babies. Leaving heirs is just a reason he uses to convince the girls and Ares. But well, he is an antagonist after all so of course he isn't a nice guy lol.

One thing I don't particularly like about this game is that most of out units have quite low leadership level. They can only have around 2000 - 3000 troops unless you level up them a lot or give them leadership boost using item. By the way, just in case some people don't know, there is an consumable item that boost leadership. It is sold in remote village in the mountain area (in the center of Hippia land) but it is very expensive.
 

Deadwings

Jungle Girl
Dec 21, 2013
29
3
Hippia commanders have not even once captured from me a commander I did not willingly send to them. Meanwhile, the King has punished me harshly for my idleness by taking away not only valuable manpower, but also characters I'd grown fond of. If I find the King annoying, it's quite likely because he's the only NTR threat that actually succeeds in being threatening.

Gameplay wise, the King could be equated to something like a natural disaster ruled by a few RNGs. He's something that just happens, inevitable for the most part but with effects that can be attenuated with sufficient preparation. It is quite possible to prepare enough and go the entire game without him touching a single one of your girls, but the fact remains that you have to go through all those preparations or else lose your female commanders.

In contrast, for Hippia to take even a single one of my girls, I have to make an active effort to allow them (and suppress my inner strategist that just wants to crush the enemies).

I can't say I understand anyone who would say that the capture system is fine while the harem is not, since really, the harem is the only one that ever sees use in my gameplays. It's punishing enough in depriving you of your armies, and if you don't care about the characters then that's a failure of the story, not the mechanics (and the fact that it's in japanese). Even if the fact that your armies being taken away isn't actually punishing for you, that's less a failure of the harem and more a failure of Hippia being complete pushovers.

Keep in mind I say this as someone who's averse to NTR. I'm completely "meh" when it comes to Hippia and their H scenes, but the King and his harem have actually made me feel some excitement, both in gameplay and in H scenes; it genuinely feels like I'm losing something. And this is good, since it motivates me to play even better. Even if I don't like NTR, the fact that the mechanics implemented serve as good motivation for me to improve make them good mechanics.
 

rickbuzz

Jungle Girl
Jan 2, 2015
70
8
My only complaint about this game is that even on Platinum capture is fairly unlikely. If you really don't want to get captured you just break the jail with spy attacks before you start your assaults. Even if you don't, you can usually free them before anything happens. At least the Harem starts to get challenging on Platinum though, last time I played it went all the way up to 13 before it started going back down.

I'd make a few changes to harder difficulties...

First: Enemies with plenty of resources will repair their structures and especially their jail.

Second: They'd use the transfer system on captured Heroines more often. It's possible for enemies to transfer captured Heroines to different cities, but out of several playthroughs I've had this happen maybe twice.

Third: Enemies would be more aggressive, attacking more and with more units.

I haven't played the final difficulty to much (Black) because it's to hard for fresh starts, or at least it was before the skill translation, so I don't know how it affects the above features. I might mess around with it a bit more now that skills and items have been translated.
 

mememe

New member
May 20, 2018
6
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But it is true the harem mechanic doesn't really add anything to the gameplay, because it is so easy to play around it. If there were some disadvantage to using the male generals then the harem (and indeed the capture system) might become interesting game mechanics, where you have to trade off the advantages/disadvantages of using female/male generals. But there aren't, and so as far as the gameplay goes, it is just an annoyance.

(Quick note: This is just an observation of the gameplay - not anything about the theming of the hentai content)
While the harem part is my favorite part of the game and I wouldn't really want to change it for this game, you are right about it being too easy to play around, in terms of gameplay.

I hope the developer implements something to make the game harder and the NTR easier to happen in Leane 3. Because the game was way too easy for me even at the hardest difficulty. Except for one small mistake (wasn't paying attention and a heroine walked into the harem while it was passing), I never got the girls NTRed by accident/incompetence at all, it was always on purpose just to see scenes. I think the combat especially should be way harder, and the NTR should happen way faster with enemies.

I mean, he could also just make a seperate "hardcore NTR" difficulty, where the difficulty for every single thing in the game is cranked up perfectly that it's nearly (or even literally) impossible to win.

Also, I have never been a fan of the "lose to see hentai scenes" deal in hgames. It's so counter-intuitive to reward the player for sucking, I think it shouldn't exist even in NTR games. Especially in this game, where the game gives you SO MANY opportunities to prevent the sex from happening, both for harem and the enemy NTR scenes, that it's almost certain that you're not going to see a sex scene unless you purposefully lose. At least, that's how it has been for me.

Except, when the king is mad he won't give back the girl. And harem scenes are the best in the game mostly because of that, I'd say. The king is a force that you aren't really "fighting" so it really works. You can't do anything when he refuses, you have to comply. Whereas even if your armies got completely obliterated by the enemy you can just wait a while, the heroine will hold on long enough anyway, and just bring your whole army to prevent any NTR from happening. The game doesn't punish you enough for moving all your forces to one destination at a time, or keeping all your forces together in one base, I'd say this is mostly because of the AI and the map design. You don't ever have to leave a garrison in a base unless it's neighboring an enemy, that's a big issue.
 
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Evil987

Sex Demon
Jul 23, 2010
377
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-i see u are a man of culture as well.-

that's exactly one big bad point of the game. when u have understand how the gameplay works, the game become really easy, and almost every ntr scene in the game can be unlocked only if the player actively do things to unlock it, becouse if i want play normally and play to win, i will (almost) never see a single ntr scene in the whole playtrough.

the game should have been create in a different way, where the player always play to win and must do things in order to avoid ntr events, not the opposite. the player must seek, fight, triggher events and manage girls stats points in order to avoid bad thing will happen to them.
that's would be a really good system.

for leane 3, i have enormous doubt. the actual leane 2 engine is litterally shit. it's the worst engine ever to make a game like this. and if he whant do leane 3 with this engine again well.. bad things will happen.
plus the problem he had with the community near the release of leane2 it makes me think he don't come back soon to code, the shit people threw at him was really really serious and worrying .
 

Cleanfeel

Demon Girl
Sep 28, 2015
150
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While the harem part is my favorite part of the game and I wouldn't really want to change it for this game, you are right about it being too easy to play around, in terms of gameplay.

I hope the developer implements something to make the game harder and the NTR easier to happen in Leane 3. Because the game was way too easy for me even at the hardest difficulty. Except for one small mistake (wasn't paying attention and a heroine walked into the harem while it was passing), I never got the girls NTRed by accident/incompetence at all, it was always on purpose just to see scenes. I think the combat especially should be way harder, and the NTR should happen way faster with enemies.

I mean, he could also just make a seperate "hardcore NTR" difficulty, where the difficulty for every single thing in the game is cranked up perfectly that it's nearly (or even literally) impossible to win.

Also, I have never been a fan of the "lose to see hentai scenes" deal in hgames. It's so counter-intuitive to reward the player for sucking, I think it shouldn't exist even in NTR games. Especially in this game, where the game gives you SO MANY opportunities to prevent the sex from happening, both for harem and the enemy NTR scenes, that it's almost certain that you're not going to see a sex scene unless you purposefully lose. At least, that's how it has been for me.

Except, when the king is mad he won't give back the girl. And harem scenes are the best in the game mostly because of that, I'd say. The king is a force that you aren't really "fighting" so it really works. You can't do anything when he refuses, you have to comply. Whereas even if your armies got completely obliterated by the enemy you can just wait a while, the heroine will hold on long enough anyway, and just bring your whole army to prevent any NTR from happening. The game doesn't punish you enough for moving all your forces to one destination at a time, or keeping all your forces together in one base, I'd say this is mostly because of the AI and the map design. You don't ever have to leave a garrison in a base unless it's neighboring an enemy, that's a big issue.
You probably turned on the option where the King and his Harem doesn't relocate. There's an option when you start a new game after choosing a nation where it's like Yes or No. If you choose the one option, his harem moves like fucking crazy and he keeps going to the front lines. Super annoying and fun to play around. He goes to your girls so you can't really run. Give the new partial a try, I translated that option
 

mememe

New member
May 20, 2018
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You probably turned on the option where the King and his Harem doesn't relocate. There's an option when you start a new game after choosing a nation where it's like Yes or No. If you choose the one option, his harem moves like fucking crazy and he keeps going to the front lines. Super annoying and fun to play around. He goes to your girls so you can't really run. Give the new partial a try, I translated that option
Nope, as far as I remember, that option just adds concubines for you in the beginning of the game, once. That's all it does. if you give the king enough concubines he doesn't move anyway. And it doesn't matter if he moves since the harem will be literally full, so the heroines won't even go into it even if they pass through it. So you have to actually "handicap yourself" to get NTRed. (even though I'm making enough money, I have to limit concubines on purpose if I want the kings guard to even move.)

-i see u are a man of culture as well.-

that's exactly one big bad point of the game. when u have understand how the gameplay works, the game become really easy, and almost every ntr scene in the game can be unlocked only if the player actively do things to unlock it, becouse if i want play normally and play to win, i will (almost) never see a single ntr scene in the whole playtrough.

the game should have been create in a different way, where the player always play to win and must do things in order to avoid ntr events, not the opposite. the player must seek, fight, triggher events and manage girls stats points in order to avoid bad thing will happen to them.
that's would be a really good system.

for leane 3, i have enormous doubt. the actual leane 2 engine is litterally shit. it's the worst engine ever to make a game like this. and if he whant do leane 3 with this engine again well.. bad things will happen.
plus the problem he had with the community near the release of leane2 it makes me think he don't come back soon to code, the shit people threw at him was really really serious and worrying .
I agree. Even a gamemode that unlocks after you beat the game would make me happy. A gamemode that is practically nearly impossible but you don't lose on your character dying or capital being captured,(which is probably the biggest issue with the NTR in this game, as in you can't win and get NTRed, and you can't completely lose and get NTRed either, because it'll be game over) a "free NTR" mode, so to speak. In Leane 2 if you want to have that, you have to play around the game's rules and behavior (or give yourself handicaps since the game is so easy when you play seriously), which totally takes the immersion out of the window and you might as well be playing some other game at that point.

If he is fine with the engine I don't really see the problem. He seems to do a good job. Hopefully Leane 3 is announced soon because I really liked this game despite its flaws and would definitely like to play a better version of this with more features.
 
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